Yuri Bezmenov ex KGB Psycological Warfare Techniques. Subversion & Control of Western Society 1/7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN0By0xbst8

Interesting read.

Now to what extent is unclear to me because so little is available on Nicolae.

the governments are pushing the idea that religion,religiosity is a backward way of viewing the world, that religion is the “opium of the people”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_of_the_people, and the main focus is on Christianity.
This view is pushed on to waken the the very fabric of the Western civilization. Weakening the respect that people have for their traditions and values.

Other progressive points are the total equality between humans, all
races, all sexual orientation holding any opinion, which is a pretty
liberal (in the classical sense, not in the form that Liberalism has
taken in present day USA). This is a view that is perfectly
respectable if it would not be accompanied by positive-discrimination, in which, you, as a part of a certain
minority have more rights than the constituent majority with the only condition that you are part of a minority. This being used to
subvert and waken the fabric of western values,in taking the
focus form the real problems of a society to it’s marginal aspects.
Then there is this welfare state, in which the state is to hold the
power to decide what sort of healthcare anyone should have, the
state becomes the supreme decision maker regarding your education, healthcare, public services, personal values and so on. The power is centralised to a limited number of persons that will then decide about all the aspects of your life, personal and public, taking away the responsibility form the individual, making him dependent to the new God, the state….
And I will stop here for the moment

[...]The fact that, according to Bezmenov, the left leaning individuals and institutions have been easily duped by Soviet propaganda, does not show conservative bias, in my view.[...]

Now this is where I may have gone wrong, because as emil pointed out earlier, Yuri may have not meant it in that light, and that’s where my impression may have gone wrong. Emil said Bezmenov backed it up with facts. This was pointed out after the initial impression I got from it (perhaps from ignorance on my part). Again, because the impression was that way, does not mean Yuri may have meant it in that way. I saw it as Yuri giving his views based on his own experiences and his political views. My impressions does not make anything inevitable. I was saying if somebody has right-leaning views that is OK. I have nothing against them. That was simply the impression I got.

Now for something else. As you know in America (and thinking about it may have stemmed the impression in the first place) is the modern progressive movement (do not ask me why they call themselves progressives now) is sometimes viewed by some conservatives as socialist and the like. Both sides trade barbs equally, so do not think I am putting conservatives in contempt. Now comes a question for you folks because I am not clear on it and maybe you can help me understand better.

Is the modern progressive movement the subversion Yuri was talking about? Is it more than pundit talking points? Is it something else? As stated before, maybe in the midst of the political discourse maybe I am not seeing the forest for the trees.

[...]The fact that, according to Bezmenov, the left leaning individuals and institutions have been easily duped by Soviet propaganda, does not show conservative bias, in my view.[...]

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[...]You can’t possibly talk about communism and pretend to be objective without taking into account it’s evil nature.

It’s very easy to talk about unbiased (?) analysis when living in country who had no Red experience whatsoever.

I never said communism was not evil. Communism does not work, never worked, nor will it ever work. History has proved this over and over again. If it did work, the Soviet Union, Eastern Bloc and the like would be holding up just fine. The few remaining are not doing well (Cuba, North Korea) either. As Yuri said very accurately was communism and fascist societies have a timebomb built in. the Utopian ideologies are just that, chasing rainbows, and in that process millions suffer/ed and die/d. I do not dispute this point, nor will I ever dispute it. I make these points very clear in my blog all the time.
And you are very, very correct when you say it is easy to look at it in a skewed light when one has not experienced these things first hand. The United States has been staunchly anti-communist and is one of the reasons communism or fascism never took power. That I am grateful for, and I do not downplay for those that have experienced this first hand. If this was the impression I gave, then I apologize. That was not the intent whatsoever.
2. Next:

[...]
I’ve been thinking this afternoon how to explain to you in simple and concise terms why I don’t regard Bezmenov’s account as conservatively biased.
It goes like this. At its core, Communism has been (still is) a Lie. Its proportions are so massive, it truly warrants an upper case L. Exposing this lie, as Bezmenov does, is indeed a political stance. However, it is not ideologically tainted. There is a difference between the political significance of a statement and whether the motivation is ideologically skewed. Sometimes the latter drives the former and the ripple effect is that the former obfuscates the latter. However, in the case of a Lie of such magnitude, I don’t see any ideological spin tainting the sheer act of exposing that Lie for what it is. His account could have come from a Socialist, Liberal, Libertarian, make your pick. Very unlikely from a Communist though, I agree.
But a lie is a lie, and calling it like it is, is free of ideological weight. This is why I view this issue like I do, Jack.
****
[...]
Having said that, I can’t stand by and listen/read stuff that sends the horrendous suffering of peoples under Totalitarian Communism to the pigeon-hole of “conservative bias.”
There’s nothing “biased” or “conservative” in exposing the still-to-be-told evil communism has caused. If spelling the truth as I and many people have lived it is “conservative bias,” so be it.
I really don’t care.
[...]

Because I view it as a bias and stance does not mean it is tainted. I think that’s where this discussion went wrong. I thought I made it clear when I said I have nothing against conservatives or liberals for that matter. I am against totalitarianism, suppression and lack of human rights. I believe that is not a conservative or a liberal issue, it is a bi-partisan issue and should be that way in my view. All should be able to express view be it liberal or conservative, which has been squelched in regimes such as the DPRK. People have a point of view, and Yuri was giving his insights based on said views based on his experiences. I will repeat it again to make it crystal clear; it does not make it bad. That was the impression I got from it. It does not make communism any less of a failed ideology.That is my own view on the matter. Others may disagree with that, and that is fine. With that said, it is not in an attempt to downplay the views or the experiences you, others or Yuri have experienced.
Now, with the better insights of those who have experienced it and/or have a better grasp of the subject to make the issue clearer gives me a better understanding of the context in which it was given. Thank you for that. As I said before, impressions and reality are different things. Communism never took power in the United States because of the Cold War, McCarthyism, and general anti-communist stance. That is a good thing in my own biased view. History and bias are different things (history turns into fact), but too many times bias and history get mixed together. That is why I was trying to watch the video from a purely historical perspective instead of the biased one. Perhaps I got the wrong impression. Maybe Yuri was not trying to give his warning that communist ideology will creep into the U.S. political system based on a conservative bias. I will watch it again and research further. As I said on the post:

[...] Does it mean I disagree with the bias? No, not really, but I am in no position to make an informed opinion.[...]

3. Lastly:

[...]
What interests me about your enterprise regarding North Korea, under the circumstances, is whether you are after the truth about the ultimate totalitarian society, or you’re doing it as a challenge to penetrating impenetrable, closed-in, somewhat exotic cultures, an anthropologist who goes into strange cultures to record strange rituals and write academic dissertations?

You can find the answer here.
If you folks wish to talk some more, or ask questions in real time, feel free to contact me via instant messenger:
MSNim: peter.pansy@hotmail.com or Yahoo: albn_again

[...]You can’t possibly talk about communism and pretend to be objective without taking into account it’s evil nature.

It’s very easy to talk about unbiased (?) analysis when living in country who had no Red experience whatsoever.

I never said communism was not evil. Communism does not work, never worked, nor will it ever work. History has proved this over and over again. If it did work, the Soviet Union, Eastern Bloc and the like would be holding up just fine. The few remaining are not doing well (Cuba, North Korea) either. As Yuri said very accurately was communism and fascist societies have a timebomb built in. the Utopian ideologies are just that, chasing rainbows, and in that process millions suffer/ed and die/d. I do not dispute this point, nor will I ever dispute it. I make these points very clear in my blog all the time.
And you are very, very correct when you say it is easy to look at it in a skewed light when one has not experienced these things first hand. The United States has been staunchly anti-communist and is one of the reasons communism or fascism never took power. That I am grateful for, and I do not downplay for those that have experienced this first hand. If this was the impression I gave, then I apologize. That was not the intent whatsoever.
2. Next:

[...]
I’ve been thinking this afternoon how to explain to you in simple and concise terms why I don’t regard Bezmenov’s account as conservatively biased.
It goes like this. At its core, Communism has been (still is) a Lie. Its proportions are so massive, it truly warrants an upper case L. Exposing this lie, as Bezmenov does, is indeed a political stance. However, it is not ideologically tainted. There is a difference between the political significance of a statement and whether the motivation is ideologically skewed. Sometimes the latter drives the former and the ripple effect is that the former obfuscates the latter. However, in the case of a Lie of such magnitude, I don’t see any ideological spin tainting the sheer act of exposing that Lie for what it is. His account could have come from a Socialist, Liberal, Libertarian, make your pick. Very unlikely from a Communist though, I agree.
But a lie is a lie, and calling it like it is, is free of ideological weight. This is why I view this issue like I do, Jack.
****
[...]
Having said that, I can’t stand by and listen/read stuff that sends the horrenduous suffering of peoples under Totalitarian Communism to the pigeon-hole of “conservative bias.”
There’s nothing “biased” or “conservative” in exposing the still-to-be-told evil communism has caused. If spelling the truth as I and many people have lived it is “conservative bias,” so be it.
I really don’t care.
[...]

Because I view it as a bias and stance does not mean it is tainted. I think that’s where this discussion went wrong. I thought I made it clear when I said I have nothing against conservatives or liberals for that matter. I am against totalitarianism, supression and lack of human rights. I believe that is not a conservative or a liberal issue, it is a bi-partisan issue and should be that way in my view. All should be able to express view be it liberal or conservative, which has been squelched in regimes such as the DPRK. People have a point of view, and Yuri was giving his insights based on said views based on his experiences. I will repeat it again to make it crystal clear; it does not make it bad. That was the impression I got from it. It does not make communism any less of a failed ideology.That is my own view on the matter. Others may disagree with that, and that is fine. With that said, it is not in an attempt to downplay the views or the experiences you, others or Yuri have experienced.
Now, with the better insights of those who have experienced it and/or have a better grasp of the subject to make the issue clearer gives me a better understanding of the context in which it was given. Thank you for that. As I said before, impressions and reality are diferent things. Communism never took power in the United States because of the Cold War, McCarthyism, and general anti-communist stance. That is a good thing in my own biased view. History and bias are different things (history turns into fact), but too many times bias and history get mixed together. That is why I was trying to watch the video from a purely historical perpective instead of the biased one. Perhaps I got the wrong impression. Maybe Yuri was not trying to give his warning that communist ideology will creep into the U.S. political system based on a conservative bias. I will watch it again and research further. As I said on the post:

[...] Does it mean I disagree with the bias? No, not really, but I am in no position to make an informed opinion.[...]

3. Lastly:

[...]
What interests me about your enterprise regarding North Korea, under the circumstaces, is whether you are after the truth about the ultimate totalitarian society, or you’re doing it as a challenge to penetrating impenetrable, closed-in, somewhat exotic cultures, an anthropologist who goes into strange cultures to record strange rituals and write academic dissertations?

You can find the answer here.
If you folks wish to talk some more, or ask questions in real time, feel free to contact me via instant messenger:
MSNim: peter.pansy@hotmail.com or Yahoo: albn_again

I’m not one to be easily offended in these times of wearing offense as a badge of honor and as a marker of identity that varrous groups use to gain undeserved entitlements, past merit and character. I don’t believe in those people being offended, really. It’s a racket, it’s a scheme to get money and privilege for nothing, for no achievement. Just like I don’t believe in Muslims being offended by the cartoons. It’s all a cynical ploy.

Having said that, I can’t stand by and listen/read stuff that sends the horrenduous suffering of peoples under Totalitarian Communism to the pigeon-hole of “conservative bias.”
There’s nothing “biased” or “conservative” in exposing the still-to-be-told evil communism has caused. If spelling the truth as I and many people have lived it is “conservative bias,” so be it.

I really don’t care.
What interests me about your enterprise regarding North Korea, under the circumstaces, is whether you are after the truth about the ultimate totalitarian society, or you’re doing it as a challenge to penetrating impenetrable, closed-in, somewhat exotic cultures, an anthropologist who goes into strange cultures to record strange rituals and write academic dissertations?

It goes like this. At its core, Communism has been (still is) a Lie. Its proportions are so massive, it truly warrants an upper case L. Exposing this lie, as Bezmenov does, is indeed a political stance. However, it is not ideologically tainted. There is a difference between the political significance of a statement and whether the motivation is ideologically skewed. Sometimes the latter drives the former and the ripple effect is that the former obfuscates the latter. However, in the case of a Lie of such magnitude, I don’t see any ideological spin tainting the sheer act of exposing that Lie for what it is. His account could have come from a Socialist, Liberal, Libertarian, make your pick. Very unlikely from a Communist though, I agree.
But a lie is a lie, and calling it like it is, is free of ideological weight. This is why I view this issue like I do, Jack.

It’s very easy to talk about unbiased (?) analysis when living in country who had no Red experience whatsoever.

The fact that, according to Bezmenov, the left leaning individuals and institutions have been easily duped by Soviet propaganda, does not show conservative bias, in my view. That was the reality, and Bezmenov backs it up with facts.

This is where I have to respectfully disagree. Yes, he does back it up with facts, and I do not dispute it. Because left leaning individuals may be swayed by Soviet propaganda or other propaganda is true. The same goes with a conservative leaning thought process. One good example of propaganda in America is the Century of the Self. Many disagree with this series and I respect that. Both back things up with facts and propaganda subversion is a very exacting science as Yuri suggested. I will concede his focus was not about other trains of thought and was focused on Soviet subversion which I find fascinating.

So to conclude, it is only my impression and impressions vs. reality may be different. I do not mean to cause any problems because as you said it is a very small point because overall, the video gives very gripping insight, and despite my impressions, it was extremely informative.